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God is a metaphor for what?
Hey my first blog post, I'm not sure what the difference between blogs and posting in the Forum but I thought I would try my hand at this
So my question is today, God is a metaphor for what? I'm going to resoundly reject the notion that God or the term God is a literal in that brings down the concept or God to the level of a banana object level and I'm pretty sure that this is not the case. So what is God a metaphor of and how is that applied in your lives. I'll post my own thoughts in a bit on this topic but I always take a very embodied view of what reality is about, beliefs are meaningless to me so if you say "I Believe" i'm going to always ask is your belief a hypothesis, or a fact that can't be explained, what's it's structure etc, I have no time for beliefs they do not allow for growth or development and are invariably unexplained concepts that are accepted as fact's that in my late stages of life is silly and nonsensical.
So my question is today, God is a metaphor for what? I'm going to resoundly reject the notion that God or the term God is a literal in that brings down the concept or God to the level of a banana object level and I'm pretty sure that this is not the case. So what is God a metaphor of and how is that applied in your lives. I'll post my own thoughts in a bit on this topic but I always take a very embodied view of what reality is about, beliefs are meaningless to me so if you say "I Believe" i'm going to always ask is your belief a hypothesis, or a fact that can't be explained, what's it's structure etc, I have no time for beliefs they do not allow for growth or development and are invariably unexplained concepts that are accepted as fact's that in my late stages of life is silly and nonsensical.
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Comment by James S Saint on November 10, 2009 at 3:44pm - The Situation
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Comment by david thurman on November 10, 2009 at 5:41pm - explain
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Comment by Roman Kozlowski on November 10, 2009 at 7:09pm -
Intriguing. Mmm. I suppose if we draw from the various segments of this milieu we call life…
Some would say I believe
Some would say I want to believe
Some would say I dare to believe
Some would say I don’t believe
Some would say I don’t want to believe
Some would say I don’t dare not to believe
Some would say God is a higher ideal
Some would say God is a done deal
Some would say God is all
Some would say God is nothing
Some would say God is
Some would say God is a higher being
Some would say God is a higher state of being
Some would say God is a probability
Some would say God is a problem
Some would say God
Some would say nothing
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Comment by david thurman on November 11, 2009 at 7:18am
- Roman I'm in the last camp. I can't fully explain that either. The word means a something to me but it's a word that has a base experience. It's like love, but it's not and it is. my sense is that a priori is purely a result of culture and that each generation receives the collective experiences. Soon the generations begin to lose the sense of direct experience and perceive those experiences in simply a cognitive fashion and thus project onto the reality around the an objective reality around them that is separate from them. It's through the cognition and disconnection from directly experiencing, or discovering new ideas that creates this illusion. Culture has created a priori it's purely an illusion in that there is no objective reality around us that is separate from us, our brains are molded by and molded to the environment. Again you know I"m pushing towards an embodied view that embraces both our emotional and analytical, which is hard in this culture where the two are in opposition.
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Comment by david thurman on November 11, 2009 at 7:24am
- I might also add Roman that this is consistent with my take on Translational and transformational and I think Ken Wilber is correct on that point. It's a split in our perceptual framework that has given rise to this. My sense is also that this is evolutionary and that it's not a bad but an is. I also take a strong stand that evolution is not linear but recursive in a very strong way so we are going to end up back at the beginning of modern human development perceptually with a cognitive component of understanding that more clearly. I hope I'm making sense on that but evolution is like a strange loop rather than a straight arrow to me.
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Comment by david thurman on November 11, 2009 at 7:38am
- one last last point Roman, I am now interested in the Pythagoras cult and that transitional point in mathematics. So they directly are experiencing a something early, they pass it on and it's now cognitively understood and the direct first discovery or developmental experience is bypassed by the learner. We no longer hold to their view but we accept their discoveries as being true and reject their religious views. We project our own current cultural religious views back towards them and I'm not sure that belief had anything to do with it rather religious views come up from an experience and are then transmitted and turned into simply a cognitive framework or translational framework. I'm rambling as I type I have to think about this a bit deeper.
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Comment by Roman Kozlowski on November 11, 2009 at 7:54am
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I like your “it's not a bad but an is” which can also include a good for some too.
“I'm rambling as I type I have to think about this a bit deeper”. I agree, the well of investigating new experiences is indeed bottomless.
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Comment by david thurman on November 11, 2009 at 8:09am
- If it wasn't bottomless where would the fun be and the sense of discovery.:D What would people in the future do if we knew everything today how boring would that be. "Damn I wish I lived back then when they discovered everything, we just have to regurgitate what they discovered". BORING....LOL.
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Comment by db on November 11, 2009 at 3:31pm -
Let me take a stab at this....straight from mind...
God is a meta4 for an omnipresent entity that transcends the essence of supernatural and spiritual phenomena....
db
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