Religion and Human Origins Part 1

Comment by Jeff H on November 14, 2009 at 5:10pm

This is not a Bible Thumping Post (Almost unbelievable but true)

I thought I understood the Right to Life, then I quite by accident stumbled onto this movie. The understanding went from the horror of murder of innocents, to anger at the instigation of that murder by monied interests. I'd suggest looking at the trailer, then listening to the podcasts.



Check out the link below, and click on podcasts to the right. You'll be astounded
http://www.maafa21.com/

Another Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2370545/posts
Excerpt:(CNSNews.com) – Abortion kills more black Americans than the seven leading causes of death combined, according to data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for 2005, the latest year for which the abortion numbers are available.

Abortion killed at least 203,991 blacks in the 36 states and two cities (New York City and the District of Columbia) that reported abortions by race in 2005, according to the CDC. During that same year, according to the CDC, a total of 198,385 blacks nationwide died from heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide, and chronic lower respiratory diseases combined. These were the seven leading causes of death for black Americans that year.

Observation of the statics in Maafa21- "The most dangerous place for a black person in the whole world is their mother's womb."

Comment by Molly Goodman on November 15, 2009 at 8:41pm

Chandra-

Above you said that you had a hard time pinning down your stance on abortion in relation to rape and incest. In my last philosophy class, one of my classmates believed that abortion was very black and white. He was quite conservative and thought that no matter what if a woman gets pregnant, it is because God intended her to carry that child and for it to live on this earth. I am against abortion, but to me this sounded so extreme. A girl in my class asked him about the topic of rape and incest and he still held his ground saying that God put that baby there and it was not our right to end it's life.

What do you think?

Comment by Chandra Fudge on November 16, 2009 at 12:07am

Molly,

I just can't begin to put myself in that position. I've never experienced such a tragedy and while I have my opinions they are based on my own experiences. I don't know if I could live with my rapist's baby, and because of this, I can't fathom forcing another women to either, even if my stance is pro life,,,,,

Comment by James S Saint on November 16, 2009 at 1:33am

"This is not a Bible Thumping Post (Almost unbelievable but true)"

Well you're right about that. It isn't a Bible post, but a racist post.

Let's see, what was that verse when Jesus said, "An eye for an eye, a lie for a lie, a theft for a theft, and a death for a death."?

Surely it is only fair that for every black that dies a white should also die. But then again, since black are still deamed a minority, for every black that dies, 2 whites should be put to death. But since we likes dem white womens, let's make it 2 white mens. It's only fair.

I realize that you are only a literalist and thus have no understanding of Jesus at all, but you can probably remember off the top of your head Jesus' proclamations concerning racism. We certainly can't believe that we love God if we don't hate those who oppose our race.

Comment by doug on November 16, 2009 at 5:00am

If you're referring to the Bible here, you have to pause and realize that it never mentions different races...we are all one race: the human race, which just comes in various "hues" of the same color; some have more pigment and some have less pigment. After all, we all came from Noah and his wife and their 3 sons (and wives)...taking it further back, we all came from Adam and his wife, Eve...so physically, we are all related (whether we like it or not). Spiritually we are (only) 2 kinds (or groups): children of God ...or not children of God (or as Jesus said, "You are of your father, the devil").

Comment by doug on November 16, 2009 at 5:04am

And if I remember correctly, Planned Parenthood was started by someone who wanted to use it to eliminate black babies...the racist Margaret Sanger. (I think I recall that correctly.)

Comment by James S Saint on November 16, 2009 at 5:43am

"If you're referring to the Bible here, you have to pause and realize that it never mentions different races"

Exactly!

"Planned Parenthood was started by someone who wanted to use it to eliminate black babies...the racist Margaret Sanger."

And exactly WHO told you that? The same people who tell you that there is no God perhaps?

Pull back the curtain to see who is pulling your strings of information, and who do you expect to find? Certainly not God, Jesus, or Science.

Comment by Jeff H on November 16, 2009 at 10:01am

1st to James. It isn't a racist post, its a post about racism, and a post that considers evil it horrific. It as an anti-racist post.

I'll correct you both and with the obsevation that the Greek word "Ethnos" (sound familiar- Ethnic Group) is used 164 times in the NT, broken down as follows: Gentiles 93, nation 64, heathen 5, people 2

The scripture most easily translated "In the last days nation will arise against nation" uses the word ethnos. Change to to "In the last days, Ethnicity will war against another Ethnicity(ies)" and it sheds a new light.

So now you have information that people (Not just white, if you listened to the podcasts you're hip to Jessie Jackson's transformation) did and are continuing to pursue this practice of Genocide. I'm telling people about it, and getting called racist, (Usually by people who only scan the info). I have and continue to financially support crisis pregnancy centers locally. I've voted anti-abortion all my life.

What are you going to do about it?

Comment by Chandra Fudge on November 16, 2009 at 12:27pm

I'm am not going to get into a racism debate.

However, on the comment of Margaret Sanger, being a racist, this is so far from truth. Margaret Sanger was the pioneer for birth control rights in this country. She worked mostly with the poor minority this is true, but it wasn't racially motivated and she did not have ill intentions. She saw women getting pregnant over and over again, who did not want to be pregnant because they couldn't afford too, and were not able to take care of the child and would choose self induced abortions that were very dangerous and risky, not to mention very illegal, all because birth control was illegal. She dealt with jail, her clinics being raided and having to flee the country for two years after being threatened with a 45 year prison term because of a magazine that while obeyed the letter of the law, was considered to be giving out information on birth control.

Comment by Roman Kozlowski on November 16, 2009 at 2:00pm

Chandra

You’re right in describing that we live more in the area of grey than the black and white.

Emotions, circumstances, situations, physical, and especially mental health of the ultimate decision makers, I believe are sacrosanct and so should not be hijacked by outside opinions.

Well said.

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