Sacrificing intuition for what......? PHI 214

Comment by Laili Dalloul on November 7, 2009 at 8:36pm

Andrea, you are so right! Its scary how many of my friends dont know how to cook or do things on thier own because we have invented so many things to just do stuff for us. I think its cool that we have these things, they definitely are helpful, but what happens if for some reason these things go away, or if you are not able to have access to these things. We rely to much on them, and its making our intuition go down the drain, its scary.

Comment by Jeff H on November 7, 2009 at 9:14pm

Remember Emerson in the essay "Self Reliance" said that everything we gain costs us something. We gain horses, we lose muscles. We gain computers and vast amounts of knowlegde, we lose math without a calculator and writing without spellcheck....

Comment by James S Saint on November 7, 2009 at 9:52pm

"We have sacrificed our intuition for intellect, but gone even further and sacrificed our intellect for ease."

..And sacrificed our existence for lust of power to control the universe.

Comment by Andrea Teal Shinn on November 8, 2009 at 4:54pm

Laili- I feel exactly the same. I have friends that can barely boil water, let alone cook a whole meal. I think if all those modern conveniences were to suddenly go away, the world wouldn't know what to do! I remember when they thought Y2K was coming and everyone freaked out, and that was a complete fluke, and only would have affected computers, I can't imagine what would happen if it ALL was unavailable to us. Maybe that's the key to saving humanity, we have to start doing things ourselves again.
Jeff- It's so true what Emerson said, its a sad reality that we have had to sacrifice so much all in the name of technology and advancing.

Comment by PH214 Lori T. on November 8, 2009 at 5:05pm

James,

Lust for power is the way of the world anymore. I believe we have also lost ourselves to "he who dies with the most toys wins." You've never seen a U-Haul behind a hearst - you can't take it with you.

Comment by Andrea Teal Shinn on November 8, 2009 at 5:29pm

Lori- its true, pretty much everything revolves around material and power. Like I said above, I think humanity will be saved only when all those things to facilitate more power, more toys, and easier access to laziness are gone. Don't quite know how that's gonna happen......guess we should start working on that : )

Comment by James S Saint on November 8, 2009 at 6:13pm

"Don't quite know how that's gonna happen..."

The one way that it can happen is the only way it can happen and that is to demonstrate what works amidst all that doesn't really work. It only takes a very few, perhaps 5 of the right people to start it. But that start DOES take the right 5 with the right understanding.

Comment by PH214 Lori T. on November 9, 2009 at 3:40pm

Andrea,

It's so sad to see the "worship" of material things. How does that make anyone happy?

Comment by Andrea Teal Shinn on November 10, 2009 at 9:11am

Ya know, it always baffles me when people say they are happy because they have money or clothes or cars or whatever. I suppose people just emanate what they see in popular cultures, with shows like Cribs giving celebrities the opportunity to flaunt what they have with reckless abandon.....I have friends that do this to themselves all the time; "If I just had enough money to buy [video game, go shopping, buy a car, go on vacation, etc] I would be happy." I suppose it's an easy trap to fall into, relying on the idea of something to motivate you to work harder, problem is we motivate ourselves with the wrong stuff.

Comment by PH214 Lori T. on November 10, 2009 at 11:22am

Andrea,

I've seen Cribs and it just makes me sad that that's what the world has decided material things are the way to happiness. I don't get it. If you look at the videos too - it's covered with women with hardly anything on and flashing money and jewelry. Ugh, makes me sick we're raising our kids in this type of environment.

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