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Still don't understand death
Ima, The "passage" you chose sounds very close to what Tolstoy went through. He was wondering if there was meaning to life and fought between suicide and living. He chose to live because, he decided…
Replied Nov. 17, 2009
science and religion
Laili, I don't even know where to begin with that one! That's a great question. I don't think they will ever agree (despite what the Pope wants everyone to now believe). It's hard to take a subjecti…
Replied Nov. 12, 2009
Was there a time you began to question?
Jeff, Thank you! Very useful information. I appreciate your taking the time to educate me!
Replied Oct. 16, 2009
Was there a time you began to question?
Jeff, Well said. Didn't God give satan only limited power? That's my understanding of their relationship.
Replied Oct. 15, 2009
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That is most definitely a quandry you are in. You're stuck between what the mind thinks it should know versus what seems hard to wrap your mind around. I understand that. I can't wrap my mind around the fact that we were evolved from monkeys. It mak…
Andrea,
That would be nirvana for sure. If only there were a chance that we could reach such enlightenment. That's what the Kingdom of Heaven will be like - ? Life is sacred, but not everyone agrees.
There are so many variables to abortion and tha…
Chandra,
I have really enjoyed our conversations. At the outset, it seemed as we were so far apart in our values and beliefs; but come to find out, we agree on a lot of things. It's amazing what we learned from each other. I understand where you're…
Abortion and the question of when a fetus is considered to be alive are two very hot topics. As I said in another post, I believe abortion is inevitable. It will always be around whether we, as humans, like it. I tend to agree with the Liberals to a…
Lynn,
What makes you believe the science aspect? They have come back so many times saying they were wrong with their first "theory" on many things. For example, dinosaurs. They used to claim they knew their movements and their eating habits and now…
Jeff,
I definitely think that abstinence should be taught right along with safe sex. It puts the thought into their head. But, I think it's important to be realistic. I tell my son that abstinence is the best bet. But, I know what it's like and tel…
Chandra,
I did a report on teaching abstinence v. safe sex. You're right - abstinence only programs don't work. It's proven. It should be a priority to teach the kids how to be responsible if they are going to be sexually active. It not only preven…
Chandra,
I absolutely agree with you. The part about using abortion as a means of birth control was the first thing that came to my mind reading this blog. If that's the case, then quit having sex if you're not ready to deal with the circumstances.…
Ima,
The "passage" you chose sounds very close to what Tolstoy went through. He was wondering if there was meaning to life and fought between suicide and living. He chose to live because, he decided that there is a God. Tolstoy said "I returned to…
I read about this before...in the newspapers. I concur with Jeff and have the same basic background as far as having grown up Catholic, until my 20's. I think it just comes down to indicating that the pope just doesn't know that much about the topic…
Actually the position of the Pope as expressed in the Catholic Encyclopedia boils down to the a statement that we don't know the method God used, just that God did it. I worshipped as a Catholic throughout my childhood, moving away from their teachi…
What do you think inspired this idea by the Pope? Since the beginning of time "the church" has always preached that the world and it's people were created by God. Why the sudden change of heart? How can they, all of sudden, justify this new idea. I…
It is obvious that science and Christians will never share the same beliefs. Having said that, the Pope is currently encouraging Christians to believe that evolution and creationism can go hand-in-hand. This is a bitter pill to swallow for true beli…
Doug,
I always appreciate your answers. You are the Christian I wish I could be. I'm too passionate and misuse that in my arguments! But you keep an even keel. I can feel my blood boiling sometimes and I have to walk away before I get very angry! P…
Laili,
I don't even know where to begin with that one! That's a great question. I don't think they will ever agree (despite what the Pope wants everyone to now believe). It's hard to take a subjective belief and interwine objective belief (i.e., sc…
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Religion and Human Origins - PHI 214
Abortion and the question of when a fetus is considered to be alive are two very hot topics. As I said in another post, I believe abortion is inevitable. It will always be around whether we, as humans, like it. I tend to agree with the Liberals to a point. They believe that abortion is OK if the fetus is going to live a life that is "frustrated" (i.e., grave deformity that would be life deprived, painful, frustrating for both child and parent). (Stewart p. 309). Of course, frustrated is a term t… Continue
Posted on December 6, 2009 at 8:53pm —
Conclusion to Big Bang and Other Thoughts
It is obvious that science and Christians will never share the same beliefs. Having said that, the Pope is currently encouraging Christians to believe that evolution and creationism can go hand-in-hand. This is a bitter pill to swallow for true believers in "God created the heavens and the Earth."
In my other blog, I brought up the naturalist theory. I touched on the fact that naturalism cannot describe how we process thoughts. As Socrates stated "the naturalist approach to reality has difficul… Continue
In my other blog, I brought up the naturalist theory. I touched on the fact that naturalism cannot describe how we process thoughts. As Socrates stated "the naturalist approach to reality has difficul… Continue
Posted on November 13, 2009 at 12:10pm — 3 Comments
Big Bang and Other Thoughts
It's a very interesting topic - was the Earth God's creation, or did it just happen out of nothingness? If it happened out of nothingness, what is the point of life here on Earth? If there is no God, what is our purpose? If we have no purpose, then why were so many things created for a purpose (one example - plants create oxygen). If there are aliens in our universe, what is their purpose?
Many have touched on the idea of creationism with evolution. I don't understand this. If we evolved from m… Continue
Many have touched on the idea of creationism with evolution. I don't understand this. If we evolved from m… Continue
Posted on November 5, 2009 at 9:46pm — 33 Comments
Summary of Women in Religion
Well, I'm not sure where we got with this. We all agree that women were seen as mere property and no value was placed upon them in the Old Testament. However, I am aware that Jesus Christ did not feel that way. He washed Mary Magdalen's feet in her deepest hour. I don't think Jesus saw women as mere objects. I think he was magnificent in appreciating all genders. Obviously, men of that time still did not see it that way.
But we have come a long way. I think sometimes we are our own worst enemie… Continue
But we have come a long way. I think sometimes we are our own worst enemie… Continue
Posted on October 20, 2009 at 10:41am — 9 Comments
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On a lighter note, do all born again christians have two belly-buttons?
The origins of the said 'sighs' are relative.
Roman,
You have call people who disagree with you fools, delusional, and worse; yet would teach me how to "get along"?
and again ~sigh~
Using the sword of truth like a blunt hammer only isolates.
Jeff, I must ask myself why, as you say, people are worshiping science. Can they not find frameworks, mystery, hope and challenge in spirituality?
Fortunately, it is not necessary that everyone descend into extreme addiction (vice) to develop profo…
Yes David Bee, all potential sources of knowledge should be given an honest look however there are so many sources that it would take years to get through them all. I am suggesting that each one of us here is a potential sources of knowledge. For ex…
Bee, enjoy your book.
Given these "problems" with the Bible, if the God of the Bible is the God of reality (as I believe He is), I do not wonder at all about His reasons for bringing forth the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon is the anchor of my faith in Jesus Christ.…
"without any possibility of appreciating its stories of actual greater underlying metaphoric meanings"
Roman, Did Moses lifting serpant for Israel to look upon and be spared the death they were facing have anything to do with the lifting up of Chri…
Jeff. anyone would be bewildered if others insisted they turn away from a profound personal experience. I hope you do not feel I or others are challenging the validity of your experience or belief. We did not come to RG to change each other - did we…
The bible is a great book. Though not perfect by any means in its many years of attempted transliterations involving additions and edits, and as its historical development with its endless diversity of interpretations bares out, even to this day as…
Goodmorning Kernal,
Over a year ago there was a very strident debate between a mormon and I. It was ugly, and I learned from it. I mispoke earlier when I refered to this thread, I meant this topic. You'll note I haven't participated much. I don't w…
Thanks Jeff,
Glad to hear from you and thanks for sharing as you have. I'm not sure I understand your reference (9 hours ago) about bringing this thread back to life? Nevertheless. . .
As for me being full of myself, I can see how you would say tha…
Thanks Katinka. The book referral is appreciated.
Kernal, you're a might full of yourself there bud. I didn't bring this thread back to life, and have resisted jumping into another me vs. mormon debate. Just not worth the trouble. I guess I've grown up a little in my time on RG, even at 49 years.…
Here is how I see it.
We are spiritual beings having a mortal experience. Currently our physical body and our spirit body are inseparably connected until our physical body dies, when we will leave our physical body.
I am unable to physically detect…
I have been taught, and believe, that it is only with an open mind can one find the truth. I do not believe that there will be any conflict between scientific fact/truth and religious fact/truth, when all is known. Theories are not fact, but are par…
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