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Understanding if you are part of the Religious Right ;-)
Twenty ways to know if you are included in the Media's understanding of the Religious Right
1. You have never actually referred to yourself as part of the religious right, because you are a Christian as opposed to religious. Terminology matters to you.
2. You have never joined some weird fanatics from Kansas protesting military funerals in the name of God.
3. You actually don't really listen to Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh, and haven't for years, if ever. And you've never read a Benny Hinn book. Ann Coulter does not reflect your attitude either.
4. You believe it's reasonable that 12-year boys should not be allowed to wear skirts to school. Revolutionary old-school, you are.
5. You are not cool enough to embrace every idea of pseudo-spirituality that comes from Oprah.
6. Unlike your emergent counterparts and theological liberals, you don't believe Bono is the fourth member of the Trinity.
7. Despite your disgust for abortion, You would never justify the murder of an abortionist, and don't know anyone who ever would.
8. You haven't watched a televangelist in years, except maybe a Billy Graham rerun.
9. You believe that maintaining traditional marriage, with its history over 1000s of years, is at least a plausible idea. ("Bigot!")
10. You have a sense of humor and can make fun of yourself.
11. You are subject to constant criticism and parody that other faith groups would never accept, yet accept the persecution graciously.
12. You are concerned about the increasing national debt due to government spending, as you are forced to balance your own checkbook.
13. You think it's reasonable that the federal government should not pay for abortions because they use your tax dollars.
14. You believe that freedom of speech & expression applies as much to the pulpit as much as it does to those creating blasphemous art with government dollars.
15. Despite the predominant thinking, Fox News is not your primary source of news. You are smart enough to think critically. In fact, you shut the TV off a lot.
16. You don't seriously think Obama is the Antichrist. None of your friends do either. Come on.
17. Instead of engaging in conservative conspiracy theories, these theories actually make you laugh.
18. One thing is true: You don't trust the New York Times.
19. You have the capacity to vote as a Democrat or Independent and have even done so at points in your life.
20. You understand that politics don't change people, only Jesus Christ will. Therefore, you put your hope in God.
If fidelity to these ideas makes me a part of the Religious Right, so be it
1. You have never actually referred to yourself as part of the religious right, because you are a Christian as opposed to religious. Terminology matters to you.
2. You have never joined some weird fanatics from Kansas protesting military funerals in the name of God.
3. You actually don't really listen to Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh, and haven't for years, if ever. And you've never read a Benny Hinn book. Ann Coulter does not reflect your attitude either.
4. You believe it's reasonable that 12-year boys should not be allowed to wear skirts to school. Revolutionary old-school, you are.
5. You are not cool enough to embrace every idea of pseudo-spirituality that comes from Oprah.
6. Unlike your emergent counterparts and theological liberals, you don't believe Bono is the fourth member of the Trinity.
7. Despite your disgust for abortion, You would never justify the murder of an abortionist, and don't know anyone who ever would.
8. You haven't watched a televangelist in years, except maybe a Billy Graham rerun.
9. You believe that maintaining traditional marriage, with its history over 1000s of years, is at least a plausible idea. ("Bigot!")
10. You have a sense of humor and can make fun of yourself.
11. You are subject to constant criticism and parody that other faith groups would never accept, yet accept the persecution graciously.
12. You are concerned about the increasing national debt due to government spending, as you are forced to balance your own checkbook.
13. You think it's reasonable that the federal government should not pay for abortions because they use your tax dollars.
14. You believe that freedom of speech & expression applies as much to the pulpit as much as it does to those creating blasphemous art with government dollars.
15. Despite the predominant thinking, Fox News is not your primary source of news. You are smart enough to think critically. In fact, you shut the TV off a lot.
16. You don't seriously think Obama is the Antichrist. None of your friends do either. Come on.
17. Instead of engaging in conservative conspiracy theories, these theories actually make you laugh.
18. One thing is true: You don't trust the New York Times.
19. You have the capacity to vote as a Democrat or Independent and have even done so at points in your life.
20. You understand that politics don't change people, only Jesus Christ will. Therefore, you put your hope in God.
If fidelity to these ideas makes me a part of the Religious Right, so be it
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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on -
Actually I have listened to Rush now and again, but Coulter is a loon. I listen to NPR now and again, so I guess I'm balanced.
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Permalink Reply by Roman Kozlowski on -
Wow! Jeff, What an eye-opening insight to American values.
I never realized that you people were so manipulated and insular across the pond.
We in the UK comfortably access and counterbalance the likes of Al Jazeera news with our daily papers for a wider world perspective.
We have no televangelists.
We read ‘Private Eye’ which is our ancient satirical newspaper on world politics.
Though historically and ceremonially we maintain a Christian hue, we as a nation are proudly mainly atheistic, with even the likes of Prince Charles who encourages us to give preferred credence to the more interesting Buddhist philosophies and the writings of the current Dalai Lama.
Because of our history, we are a naturally cautiously cynical and averse to all fundamental doctrines, established or new.
Our BBC TV and world radio broadcasts are funded and controlled by the people without any adverts.
In general, we are the most questioning and least gullible people you’d ever meet.
And thank goodness for that.
Wow! You have got it bad over there to have let things slide so much out of general peoples control.
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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on
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"Our BBC TV and world radio broadcasts are funded and controlled by the people without any adverts." Hitler - Mao - and Stalin/ Kruschev had that too...
And the Queen Mum doesn't seem to think Charles fit to be King yet either... Go figure....
Yeah we're a dysfunctional mess... but don't worry... If you get backed up against it again, we'll still bring our trashy, manipulated, butts over the pond and bail you out. After all, you're still kin. Least you all don't surrender at a hic-up like the frogs.
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Permalink Reply by Roman Kozlowski on
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By the people for the people. Go walk the talk.
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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on
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I vote... its the most I can do. (I have been known to speak my mind on ocassion)
Roman Kozlowski said:By the people for the people. Go walk the talk.
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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on
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I am always seeking to understand God better. I truly have learned from everyone here, even Roman :-) I want the truth. I can handle the truth. Steel sharpens steel. Sid acutally gave me an insight I passed on to my Pastor, and he used it in a sermon. It dealt with the word "Supernatural" (There is no such thing). I live... I grow... I breathe... If I listen only to my own thoughts, am I thinking?
Jim G said:Why do you want to participate in Religion 2.0 if your belief is decidedly Religion 1.0 Jeff?
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Permalink Reply by PH214 Youstbi Djuanvat on -
Dear Jeff,
Uhm I am confused, what's the difference between christianity and a religion? (I meant as in being a christian and a religious person)
Christianity is a religion right? Yes I know—christianity is a relationship and not a religion and so on so on, but.. officially The States still sees it as a religion (Tax exempt for pastors—aha!) If christianity is a relationship to God then it doesn't have a right to have chaplaincy in the Armed force, no tax exempt, no special privilege—it wasn't a religion when Jesus still alive, now it has became one.
If Christianity has became a relationship again then when you ask someone, "what is your religion?"
one who believe in it should say, "none."
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Permalink Reply by Jeff H on
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Youstbi,
The state views secular humanism as a religion according to the US Supreme Court as well. There are legal definitions, common use of words, and definitions within the faiths themselves. Everything works in context.
PH214 Youstbi Djuanvat said:Dear Jeff,
Uhm I am confused, what's the difference between christianity and a religion? (I meant as in being a christian and a religious person)
Christianity is a religion right? Yes I know—christianity is a relationship and not a religion and so on so on, but.. officially The States still sees it as a religion (Tax exempt for pastors—aha!) If christianity is a relationship to God then it doesn't have a right to have chaplaincy in the Armed force, no tax exempt, no special privilege—it wasn't a religion when Jesus still alive, now it has became one.
If Christianity has became a relationship again then when you ask someone, "what is your religion?"
one who believe in it should say, "none."
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Permalink Reply by david thurman on -
Roman. Robin Williams made a profound insight in a joke. He said we were so uptight that even the English kick our ancestors "the puritans" out. Which is funny in that Australia is the penal colony so they were the opposite of us, except we have a tendency to match up more closely with Australia perceptually than England. But here's the kicker Roman we are self aware what a screwy country we are, think of this Jeff posted a very self aware posting in that it lays out how goofy we actually are. So, i suppose you could frame a perspective of england against our dysfunctionality but then the question becomes is not england just as dysfunctional but isn't self aware of their dysfunctionality unlike americans who all to one degree revel in our dysfunctionality. We know we are screwy everyone else percievss they are less screwy than us. HA, based on what Our self description?. ......:D I live in the most diversely dysfunctional semi functioning country in th world, LOL, That's America for good and bad at the same time. We are always on the border of Chaos and Order in one fashion or another.
Roman Kozlowski said:Wow! Jeff, What an eye-opening insight to American values.
I never realized that you people were so manipulated and insular across the pond.
We in the UK comfortably access and counterbalance the likes of Al Jazeera news with our daily papers for a wider world perspective.
We have no televangelists.
We read ‘Private Eye’ which is our ancient satirical newspaper on world politics.
Though historically and ceremonially we maintain a Christian hue, we as a nation are proudly mainly atheistic, with even the likes of Prince Charles who encourages us to give preferred credence to the more interesting Buddhist philosophies and the writings of the current Dalai Lama.
Because of our history, we are a naturally cautiously cynical and averse to all fundamental doctrines, established or new.
Our BBC TV and world radio broadcasts are funded and controlled by the people without any adverts.
In general, we are the most questioning and least gullible people you’d ever meet.
And thank goodness for that.
Wow! You have got it bad over there to have let things slide so much out of general peoples control.
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