Is there life after death?

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 3, 2009 at 6:28am

Karma ? Reaping and Sowing? Cause and Effect. To me iit seems to be a natural law.

Jesus taught his followers to stop a cycle of negative cause and effect in its track by turning it into a positive cause and effect,
Jesus taught God has forgiven us, lets forgive others . Stop the eye for an eye and turn it into forgiveness for forgiveness , If you want to be forgiven, you must forgive others. Build your own Karma, Take responsibility for your own cause and effect.

John S said:

The Hindu and Buddhist religions talk about Karma. A very similar notion is presented in the Christian tradition as Sowing and Reaping. The problem of people blaming themselves is not isolated to one belief system alone. IN my opinion, the real question is what must I know and do to pay off any karmic debt I have accumulated over time. Self blame does not resolve karmic debt.

Can we return to our point of origin (after this earthly sojourn) with an accumulated debt and the associated impurities? The concept of hell might suggest that before we return home any impurities we have accumulated must be burned away. Some resolving karmic debt is what defines liberation. So the question now might become, are you looking for liberation or liberation in life? This is the lesson that Buddha demonstrated - in my opinion. Liberation can be attained in life.

The Astrologer said:

John S said:

If the law of karma eventually balances everything out, how come I was born with a clef pallet (for example) and my neighbour seems to have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth. For me, to live with the idea that "I" die when the body wears out is not nearly is much fun as living with a understanding that I a responsible for my entire life experience.

I know of this belief John but it does mean that some live their whole life blaming themselves, often doing unthinkable things because they believe they owe a debt to the karma. I have known also of those who take advantage of those who believe they must live by karmic rules...

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 3, 2009 at 6:33am

Cuse and Effect. Heaven and Hell.

The drug addict says life is hell caused of course by his actions of taking drugs. Others may live a life they consider to be heavenly, caused by their actions that are positive affirming and full of love and hope.
Human constructs for sure. But where do we get the building materials for these constructs? What spirit must we use to construct the actions that will build our heaven or hell. Truth and Righteousness or ignorance and evil?l

chris raley said:

i also dont believe in heaven and hell. they are merely just constructs of the human imagination. they are just the way that humans want things to be; the good are rewarded for eternity and the bad are punished indefinitely. santa claus for adults.

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Permalink Reply by The Kernel on July 3, 2009 at 10:03pm

The Astrologer said, “I know of this belief John but it does mean that some live their whole life blaming themselves . . . ” and “I have known also of those who take advantage of those who believe they must live by karmic rules...”

What are the essential differences between concept of Karma and the concept of Sowing and Reaping?

I know there are people who take advantage of those who believe in the concept of Karma, Sowing and Reaping or the Afterlife.

One of the things I really like about Christianity is the teachings are pretty straight forward. In my view, Jesus was pretty much focused on the "Here & Now" and focused on the new concept of Love - a god of love, neighbourly love, even loving your enemy. For me this guy was an awesome revolutionary. I like that and wish he were around today. . . and I don't consider myself as a Christian.

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Permalink Reply by The Kernel on July 3, 2009 at 10:14pm

Earlier James Germiquet said, "We cannot be sure we even exist in any form other than our awareness of our existence. . . "

James, your point seems to be that we can’t be absolutely certain of very much except our own experience through perception. Can our perception or interpretations of them be misleading? I once heard someone say their goal was to perceive clearly and feel deeply. At the time I had no idea what this meant?

As soon as we become certain of anything, we stop questioning. Why question certainty or perfect understanding? But, as soon as I stop questioning, because I’m certain of something, then how can I continue to exercise free will. Perfect understanding has no little place for it.

Here’s what I do. I take knowledge/understanding. I evaluate it and if I think it may be valuable/useful. I incorporate it as a "working premise" and begin to act as if it were true. Then, I determine if my experience of mt new reality is enhanced - and if it is I can then choose to incorporate the "working premise" into my belief structure – or not.

I believe there are somethings you cannot know or understand unless you believe in them first. Developing a working premise before investing into an idea or concept is like trying on new clothes before deciding to purchase them.

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Permalink Reply by db on July 3, 2009 at 11:54pm

So this is interesting because if you have actually created this device/capacitor (I assume you have a patent), I would love to actually give it a test drive. Is it for general availability or is still in "black box" phase of development ? Can you explain in more detail.... your findings, results, etc? I am very curious... this is the kind of stuff that I'm really into.. let's share our experiences. I'm hanging around for this one.... Let's Angelstrate it !!! (smile)....

db

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 4, 2009 at 7:36am

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The Astrologer said:

James Germiquet said:

Where do we get the building materials for these constructs? What spirit must we use to construct the actions that will build our heaven or hell. Truth and Righteousness or ignorance and evil?

Good reply James...

Are we building on experiences of past lives though? Are the dead in Christ awaiting resurrection? Are we born into this life to pay the Karmic debt of past lives? Are the dead just dead? What do you believe James?

What is the purpose of having no conscious recollection of our past lives if we have them? Why must we rebuild our lives from scratch each time? could we not benefit from lessons learned in past lives? Or would having memory of past lives bring back with it the baggage of past lives? A new fresh beginning each time. A clean canvas to paint our lives upon. Is this not the teaching of Christ?
What do I believe?

ALl I have is now. These 3 remain faith hope and love and the greatest of these is love. Faith that any memories I NOW have of a past that is forever gone are true and accurate. Hope I have NOW that there will be future and better nows and Love which is the tool I can use NOW to build my better future nows based on what I have learned about love and how well I use that tool in building my now. Is there a hereafter ? I really do not know. BUt I do have or am aware of a now which I must exist in. What must I do to make my now the best now it can possibly be?

Jesus said 1. Love god (truth and righteousness) above al else and 2"Love others . Doing this will fulfill all the Laws of Moses which were only given to teach us how to love others. And whatsoever we do to others we do to ourselves. I believe.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 4, 2009 at 7:47am

John S said:

The Astrologer said, “I know of this belief John but it does mean that some live their whole life blaming themselves . . . ” and “I have known also of those who take advantage of those who believe they must live by karmic rules...”

What are the essential differences between concept of Karma and the concept of Sowing and Reaping?

I know there are people who take advantage of those who believe in the concept of Karma, Sowing and Reaping or the Afterlife.

One of the things I really like about Christianity is the teachings are pretty straight forward. In my view, Jesus was pretty much focused on the "Here & Now" and focused on the new concept of Love - a god of love, neighbourly love, even loving your enemy. For me this guy was an awesome revolutionary. I like that and wish he were around today. . . and I don't consider myself as a Christian.

The religion called christianity is actually the antichrist. And Jesus predicted it. Jesus said 1."Not all who cry Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but those who do the will of my father in heaven (love truth and righetousness above all and love others). and Jesus also said. On that day (Judgement day) they will say we did all these things oin your name and I will say to them depart from me for I knew you not.

We recognize the prophets of God but we twist their words to suit our own evil agenda and build religions around these prophets that make their teachings unrecognizable. Well at least unrecognizable to those who do not read thos eteachings in the spirit of truth and righteousness which is why Jesus came to bring the comforter who would make all his teachings recognizable to those who sincerely seek the truth in them.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 4, 2009 at 8:02am

John S said:

Earlier James Germiquet said, "We cannot be sure we even exist in any form other than our awareness of our existence. . . "

James, your point seems to be that we can’t be absolutely certain of very much except our own experience through perception. Can our perception or interpretations of them be misleading? I once heard someone say their goal was to perceive clearly and feel deeply. At the time I had no idea what this meant?

As soon as we become certain of anything, we stop questioning. Why question certainty or perfect understanding? But, as soon as I stop questioning, because I’m certain of something, then how can I continue to exercise free will. Perfect understanding has no little place for it.

Here’s what I do. I take knowledge/understanding. I evaluate it and if I think it may be valuable/useful. I incorporate it as a "working premise" and begin to act as if it were true. Then, I determine if my experience of mt new reality is enhanced - and if it is I can then choose to incorporate the "working premise" into my belief structure – or not.

I believe there are somethings you cannot know or understand unless you believe in them first. Developing a working premise before investing into an idea or concept is like trying on new clothes before deciding to purchase them.

When I first became a christian the big stunbling block was that leap of faith. Being sincere I did not want to say I believed something I did not believe. I jeard twhat I call the voice of God .say to me. There is no proof either way, you can CHOOSE what youi want to believe. I saw the truth in the teachings oof Jesus and so I chose to believe the teachings of Jesus. I chose to believe in this spirit of truth and righteousness. After that my eyes were opened to many things,. I would read something in the bible and not understand how it could be true or good. Then something would happen and min my mind a light would go on and UI would go "Ohhh thats what that verse meant". And so I learned to see in those teachings the applications that exist and have existed for millenia in our everyday lives and the choices we must make between doing the right thing or doing something less than the right thing out of fear of the consequences.

We can choose what we believe. Often we can choose a good interpretation, or an evil interpretation. These were the choices presented to Adam, he could believe god said the things he did witfor adams good, or he could believe the serpent when the serpent said god said those things not for adams good.

In the desseert Satan again tested Jesus with gids words but Jesus saw the deception tactics and answered with the proper interpretation of gods words.

Not to say these things actually occurred but the metaphor that good words can be taken not in the way they are intened is revealed. That is the truth. We have a choice we can believe good or we can believe evil. It is said that It ois not what goes into a man that makes him unclean but what comes out.

In other words it is our interpretation which adds good or evil into what we perceive.

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Permalink Reply by James S Saint on July 4, 2009 at 10:58am

The Astrologer said:

This sounds interesting James, tell me more!

James S Saint said: {{in fact, I have designed such a thing}}

As much as I would love to, the explanation to take a person from a common understanding to "seeing the light" (as it were) would be necessary and so long as to not even be doable in a personal blog. There are simply too many concepts to straighten out (demon-straight).

I would love to get all of that straight as it causes a harmony with both Science worshipers and religion worshipers with Reality, but the confusion level makes it a tremendous task. The RD would have gotten everyone there because it builds over time without letting the gain be forgotten.

Just as with all before, it always takes a group of dedicated people who maintain diligence in the effort to truly understand and without which, only misunderstanding and more presumptions result.

Thus I merely declare for those few who care, that such things are possible, so "don't think they aren't". But then have to wait for a time when a tiny bit more understanding can be injected into the cloud of chaos that might have a chance to eventually lead to a little actual light.

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Permalink Reply by The Kernel on July 4, 2009 at 3:53pm

James Germiquet, would it be safe to say, "There are some things one could not understand until you believe in them first?

James Germiquet said:

John S said:

Earlier James Germiquet said, "We cannot be sure we even exist in any form other than our awareness of our existence. . . "

James, your point seems to be that we can’t be absolutely certain of very much except our own experience through perception. Can our perception or interpretations of them be misleading? I once heard someone say their goal was to perceive clearly and feel deeply. At the time I had no idea what this meant?

As soon as we become certain of anything, we stop questioning. Why question certainty or perfect understanding? But, as soon as I stop questioning, because I’m certain of something, then how can I continue to exercise free will. Perfect understanding has no little place for it.

Here’s what I do. I take knowledge/understanding. I evaluate it and if I think it may be valuable/useful. I incorporate it as a "working premise" and begin to act as if it were true. Then, I determine if my experience of mt new reality is enhanced - and if it is I can then choose to incorporate the "working premise" into my belief structure – or not.

I believe there are somethings you cannot know or understand unless you believe in them first. Developing a working premise before investing into an idea or concept is like trying on new clothes before deciding to purchase them.

When I first became a christian the big stunbling block was that leap of faith. Being sincere I did not want to say I believed something I did not believe. I jeard twhat I call the voice of God .say to me. There is no proof either way, you can CHOOSE what youi want to believe. I saw the truth in the teachings oof Jesus and so I chose to believe the teachings of Jesus. I chose to believe in this spirit of truth and righteousness. After that my eyes were opened to many things,. I would read something in the bible and not understand how it could be true or good. Then something would happen and min my mind a light would go on and UI would go "Ohhh thats what that verse meant". And so I learned to see in those teachings the applications that exist and have existed for millenia in our everyday lives and the choices we must make between doing the right thing or doing something less than the right thing out of fear of the consequences.

We can choose what we believe. Often we can choose a good interpretation, or an evil interpretation. These were the choices presented to Adam, he could believe god said the things he did witfor adams good, or he could believe the serpent when the serpent said god said those things not for adams good.

In the desseert Satan again tested Jesus with gids words but Jesus saw the deception tactics and answered with the proper interpretation of gods words.

Not to say these things actually occurred but the metaphor that good words can be taken not in the way they are intened is revealed. That is the truth. We have a choice we can believe good or we can believe evil. It is said that It ois not what goes into a man that makes him unclean but what comes out.

In other words it is our interpretation which adds good or evil into what we perceive.

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Permalink Reply by Quintessence on July 6, 2009 at 12:20am

My Husband asked me to post this under my name due to some technical difficulties of not being able to get on to RG. Truthfully, and as his wife, his energy needs to be focused on other things at the moment.

David's text:

RG is one crazington place !!! The first day I became a member, the first thing I did was write the first line of open source code for TSC... with comment structure, TSC Language syntax, compiler specifications, etc. because I thought it was actually "open source code"... and I remember Sid's first comment "Where are my socks?" lol I was so far off on the concept due to my past of being a programmer, that I still to this day see TSC as actual working code that would be on some divine level that it was so secure and hacker proof it could not be penetrated. I visioned "the Red Pill" as a USB flash drive RG would sell and market with TSC on it with all the modern bells and whistles to protect piracy and copyrights even though it was most likely going to end up under GNU anyways. So, I was pretty narrow minded, but this place is my development and experimental ground because RG holds the vibration of it's members within the text, java, c++, SQL database, music, videos, etc. That's what I look for... because each member that touches their keyboard or looks at the screen is imprinting their vibrational energy. I truly believe this, because of my years of tinkering in analog and digital mediums, both in the audio engineering and in the software/hardware development arenas. Anyways... the Fireworks are booming outside as I type this... Happy 4th of July Folks !!! ... well take that for instance.... you can't hear the fireworks on your side, bur they are4 still being imprinted in here within the post..., and into your perception that db is telling the truth and that's really happening. When I first arrived at RG, I was on a witch hunt, checking out every new member to see if they were a robot. I I worked in the AI and "softbotics industry for some time and developed stuff like BotFly .. which was an anti-chatbot robot for Yahoo... a robot to kill other robots. I had to learn as a human, how these things were manipulating other humans by very small scripts that were self learning in some cases.... I found that heuristics worked pretty well until I started to think about a simpler approach to catch them and ban them... chatbots in this... case was to carry on a simple conversation.. .. back in those days when chat rooms were the hit and blogging was still an infant.... I would start off with detecting how fast the response was... did it contain any text that I initiated?.. was it redundant and return the same text more than once? I could catch them pretty quick if I was the one actually typing to them... because the simple red flags were... where do you live?... what is the temperature outside? .. in the early days that was usually enough to nab the bastards. They evolved .. so I had to evolve to... because it became simple for a bot to give out any location and then use an API to get the local weather and conditions. Then, I had to start asking things like... what does chocolate taste like? What's you favorite spicy food?... you all will like this one... which cake do you like the most?... Angel or Devils Food? ... lol...it gets even better... when the bot feels it's being detected or about to be banned it notifies a real person to take over the chat and continue... and those people were usually outsourced poverty level workers in India at some chat-spam sweat shop. Then I had this goal to find and hunt down the mastermind person behind all this... I wanted to meet them face to face.... but that never happened... They were so on to me that would pull some real dirty tricks and either dynamically firewall my ass or become real creative and penetrate my system and exploit it or shut it down. I used to recognize style as the major giveaway to what class of bot they were and what pool of bots they originated from. You may notice that I really don't pay much attention to my grammar in my posts... this stems for many years of typing as a moderator .. so. the multiple dots you in my posts is actually my style... of wording and pausing like I was actually talking... that's the way I convey my thoughts easily and quickly to a text based medium. Well, the Grand Finale just went off...I'm really not a fan of fireworks... when I was little,,, about 5 years old... my older brother told me that the fireworks break up the sky and it falls down on you like chicken little...then when those loud percussive booms go off it hurts my ears... my ears are extremely sensitive.. and it was total terror and fear for me.... then my niece was born on the 4th...and at the age of 5 I did not want to an Uncle... so 4th of July is still not one of my favorite holidays.... last year I did that John Lee Hooker channeling video... it's out there somewhere ... and a lightning bolt hit the roof of our apartment building in Florida and fried my 500gig mass storage backup device... and lost all my audio and graphic work from the previous 5 years.... I got over it... because it was a sign to quit dwelling on old stuff and start working on new. Fortunately since I was a member of RG , I had placed all the good stuff out here .... but then July 11 comes around and I get banned from RG because I was doing an experiment with profile identities and hot swapping profile photos to see that was a possible trick one could use on Ning to fluke members. Well, it did all right... the problem was that RG members including myself all had Sid's profile picture.. so you could not tell who was who and who poisted what there for a while... I told Sid to ban me because it was my mistake playing devils advocate so I had the knowledge that this was a little loophole in the Ning code that could be compromised. So, all the posts... some of them pretty off the chain and some really good are lost and cannot be ever seen again according to Ning's database catalog structure. I don't believe that's true ....technologically.

At this point I logged off and was banned from RG 7/4/09

Well that's just great I never got the point I was trying to make .... anyways... let me get to it.... The Life after Death.

Let's look at it this in a technical way. The imprinted data that was collected before I was banned is still there... I could ressurect it... if that would prove a point that I was a technical shaman. That would actually bring the captured essence to members that have arrived after I was banned. So, the capacitor seems to charge and discharge here right in front of you reading this. I'll get my wife (Quintessense) to send out this text I'm finishing in notepad. This information I was typing before I was banned... was being typed into a post on Life after Death.... and for some reason... just as July 4 seems to have it's way with me.... was being transmitted.. and I'm pretty sure after meditation.. it is a very advanced vibratory relay mechanism within RG that has implanted itself as a guardian angel. I'm really into the Angel thing becasue the definition of an Angel as I was brought up to believe is "God Thoughts Passing to Man". Well I'm on the brink of proving that these thoughts from Angels can be recorded into digital media and imprinted and preserved and used as a healing conduit for those that seek thetruth down the path of healing with technology. My personal expertise is to do this with sound. Let's call it Vibratory Medicine. So with that said... you can think of this technical shaman (I labeled myself) as a medcine man that uses stored digital sound vibration for healing in a pill. You do not take this pill by mouth. So this capacitor we are talking about is a very touchy and controversial subject within certain communities of science and religion. Fortunately, I was born and raised as a Christian Scientist, so at a very young age I understood metaphysics.

I can now answer Jeff H with the first qustion he ever asked me when I joined RG. "what is the loudest sound" and that answer Jeff.. is the sound of an Angel.

We just lost a magnificent individual lately... Michael Jackson. If one rids themselves of the propaganda and listens to his messages in his songs... such as "Man in the Mirror" and "Earth Song", you'll see that there is Life after Death. I'm my opinion, in his earthly existence he tried to be both a Dark/Ebony Angel and a Light/Ivory Angel at the same time and was attempting to prove that balance is required to heal the world. Check out DEADdb and see my memorial text. It's just an example that when you pass from this existence... the best capacitor for storage is within the harp strings of thy mind. This resolves the fear of death of the physical and corporeal sense through coruscation.



"With The Angel's Third Wing, With The Devil's Third Horn" - be the awareness, do the tri-umphant.


db

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 6, 2009 at 7:39am

db said:

So this is interesting because if you have actually created this device/capacitor (I assume you have a patent), I would love to actually give it a test drive. Is it for general availability or is still in "black box" phase of development ? Can you explain in more detail.... your findings, results, etc? I am very curious... this is the kind of stuff that I'm really into.. let's share our experiences. I'm hanging around for this one.... Let's Angelstrate it !!! (smile)....

db

We could tell you what you want to know,..... but then we would have to kill you.

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