Is there life after death?

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Permalink Reply by Maju on September 30, 2008 at 2:42am

I do not know, and I do not think it is too relevant anyhow. Nonexistence (death) is trivial and if there are other existences these should be tackled in their own terms in due time.

I also think there is a lot of egotic fear in that question, but, of course, it is pretty common.

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Permalink Reply by andrewjvb on October 1, 2008 at 11:05am

I'm sure that the mind is connected to reality in an intimate way. What goes on in our heads and hearts is accessible from the outside world. But what does that necessarily mean?

I don't have any fixed belief on exactly what happens when we die. There are many possibilities. I don't believe in the universal reality of a Heaven or a Hell. Though I think that there is a part of everyone that they can't deny and perhaps will have to face up to at death. If you've created a lot of demons, they may pop up. But I don't think that's eternal or anything. I hope that there is an after life, because there is so much more to people than many realize. I deal with demons in the waking world, some don't. It doesn't seem right that they'll never have to face that reality.

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Permalink Reply by Maju on October 1, 2008 at 1:15pm

I deal with demons in the waking world, some don't. It doesn't seem right that they'll never have to face that reality.

What do you mean by that?

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Permalink Reply by Roman Kozlowski on June 28, 2009 at 7:46am

Sinister Sites – Temple Square, Utah

Situated at the heart of Salt Lake City, Utah, Temple Square is the spiritual, cultural and administrative center of the Mormon faith. This ten acres plot of land includes a Temple, a domed tabernacle and numerous buildings, monuments and memorials. While this place may seem holy and wholesome, a closer look at the structures reveal the presence of occult, pagan and masonic symbols. A deeper study of those grounds only adds to the controversy regarding Mormonism and reveals the disturbing truth about its real god.

A closer look at the stone carvings on walls and statues within reveal symblos of masonic hand shakes, inverted pent stars and the all seeing eye, etc.

Very interesting.

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Permalink Reply by James S Saint on June 28, 2009 at 9:54am

The Utah Mormons were founded by a Mason, Brigham Young. He broke his vow of secrecy concerning Masonic issues, but claimed that no one owns truth.

The Masons "worship" (if you like that term) one called "The Great Architect". Until recently, their books held Jesus in or near that position. It has to be presumed that God is that never seen Architect. The issue is, as it is with all religions, exactly which perspective of God is really being worshiped.

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Permalink Reply by James S Saint on June 28, 2009 at 5:18pm

"Judge, I did NOT kill the man, I just changed his form. Honest! And as far as that property damage, it was in a change of state anyway. I just help to change its form. Rubble is a natural state."

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Permalink Reply by The Kernel on June 29, 2009 at 11:38am

Is there Life after Death? That depend on your belief structure. The one I utilize assumes that I am not my body. My body is the vehicle I inhabit on this material plane. My premise is that I am a soul - eternal - indivisible - unique. When I use this as my starting point, the question becomes - is there Life after Life, where did I come from, where and I going, who am I. One of the more striking paradigms, proposed by ancient religion is that of reincarnation (rebirth). It sits upon the notion of Karma (meaning - ACTION). So, long before Newton proved that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, the ancients hypothesized that that everything we do will eventually come back on us. These frameworks set up a whole new set of questions - like, if the law of karma eventually balances everything out, how come I was born with a clef pallet (for example) and my neighbour seems to have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth. For me, to live with the idea that "I" die when the body wears out is not nearly is much fun as living with a understanding that I a responsible for my entire life experience.

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Permalink Reply by James S Saint on June 29, 2009 at 11:49am

Whether there actually is life for you after "death" (the death of your body) depends entirely on whether such was prepared properly. Many argue as to how to make such preparations. My version, although in complete agreement with the Biblical understanding that I hold, is something of a long unfamiliar story.

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Permalink Reply by James S Saint on June 29, 2009 at 12:41pm

The Astrologer said:

Good idea in a way db but the idea of a plot is surely for a place to dump the material trappings of this world... How about designing and establishing some sort of capacitor to hold vibration sympathetic to human life, as a celebration of life and spirit to come?

Now THERE you have the idea!! :o))

{{in fact, I have designed such a thing}}

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Permalink Reply by The Kernel on June 29, 2009 at 1:35pm

The Hindu and Buddhist religions talk about Karma. A very similar notion is presented in the Christian tradition as Sowing and Reaping. The problem of people blaming themselves is not isolated to one belief system alone. IN my opinion, the real question is what must I know and do to pay off any karmic debt I have accumulated over time. Self blame does not resolve karmic debt.

Can we return to our point of origin (after this earthly sojourn) with an accumulated debt and the associated impurities? The concept of hell might suggest that before we return home any impurities we have accumulated must be burned away. Some resolving karmic debt is what defines liberation. So the question now might become, are you looking for liberation or liberation in life? This is the lesson that Buddha demonstrated - in my opinion. Liberation can be attained in life.

The Astrologer said:

John S said:

If the law of karma eventually balances everything out, how come I was born with a clef pallet (for example) and my neighbour seems to have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth. For me, to live with the idea that "I" die when the body wears out is not nearly is much fun as living with a understanding that I a responsible for my entire life experience.

I know of this belief John but it does mean that some live their whole life blaming themselves, often doing unthinkable things because they believe they owe a debt to the karma. I have known also of those who take advantage of those who believe they must live by karmic rules...

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 3, 2009 at 6:22am

We cannot be sure we even exist in any form other than our awareness of our existennce. All that exists is now The past is gone the future is yet to come. And even our now is questionable as to what we really are as opposed to what we perceive we are. I must live in this perception of reality that I have built around me. But I have had dreams that have felt as real as life until I awoke from them. This begs the question am I dreaming right now? I think Deepack Chopra posed the same possibility that death could just be awakening from a dream. Does God exist? Do we exist? Do I believe in reincarnation? Perhaps we are able to live or relive the life of any individual who has ever existed or create an entirely new one. I suppose I have many perceptions, of possibiliities but no real firm belief which might be the true reality. However I must of course act and react according to the perception of the world I share with all of you who "exist" here in it with me.

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Permalink Reply by James Germiquet on July 3, 2009 at 6:28am

Karma ? Reaping and Sowing? Cause and Effect. To me iit seems to be a natural law.

Jesus taught his followers to stop a cycle of negative cause and effect in its track by turning it into a positive cause and effect,
Jesus taught God has forgiven us, lets forgive others . Stop the eye for an eye and turn it into forgiveness for forgiveness , If you want to be forgiven, you must forgive others. Build your own Karma, Take responsibility for your own cause and effect.

John S said:

The Hindu and Buddhist religions talk about Karma. A very similar notion is presented in the Christian tradition as Sowing and Reaping. The problem of people blaming themselves is not isolated to one belief system alone. IN my opinion, the real question is what must I know and do to pay off any karmic debt I have accumulated over time. Self blame does not resolve karmic debt.

Can we return to our point of origin (after this earthly sojourn) with an accumulated debt and the associated impurities? The concept of hell might suggest that before we return home any impurities we have accumulated must be burned away. Some resolving karmic debt is what defines liberation. So the question now might become, are you looking for liberation or liberation in life? This is the lesson that Buddha demonstrated - in my opinion. Liberation can be attained in life.

The Astrologer said:

John S said:

If the law of karma eventually balances everything out, how come I was born with a clef pallet (for example) and my neighbour seems to have been born with a silver spoon in his mouth. For me, to live with the idea that "I" die when the body wears out is not nearly is much fun as living with a understanding that I a responsible for my entire life experience.

I know of this belief John but it does mean that some live their whole life blaming themselves, often doing unthinkable things because they believe they owe a debt to the karma. I have known also of those who take advantage of those who believe they must live by karmic rules...

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